[Xbox] Conker Live and Reloaded models

[birdytsc]

14 minutes ago, MilesMontana said:

This location. I know using the .RBM importer summons a set of weapons for both Old War and Future War so i'm presuming it might be there or it's in the level files themselves I guess.

i'm still not quite sure what you are saying or asking for here?

[MilesMontana]

I was looking for the flags from the multiplayer "Capture the Flag" levels. The ones you grab and run with. back to base.

[birdytsc]

6 hours ago, MilesMontana said:

Only other thing that seems to not import is the "CombatFlag" for both Tediz and SHC. I did the clrunpack with the .mapped output 

i was referring to this post.

 

if you just want to know where the flags are im not sure, probably aid\zpackage\Level\Mp_Frontend maybe or some other shared package.

[MilesMontana]

11 minutes ago, birdytsc said:

i was referring to this post.

 

if you just want to know where the flags are im not sure, probably aid\zpackage\Level\Mp_Frontend maybe or some other shared package.

Oh, I just ran into the error and thought there was something wrong with the script handed was all.

[Über Winfrey]

8 hours ago, MilesMontana said:

Huh. That's pretty odd for it. I guess they're in the "timezone" folder then or somewhere else?

back when I was debugging the game a year ago, it has a lot of the old CBD files associated with that file, for example, the pikachu tail, so they could very well just be dummy files to make sure the game doesn't crash when trying to cache the asset list, because the list still has tons of CBD files listed that don't exist in the game files

5 hours ago, MilesMontana said:

I was looking for the flags from the multiplayer "Capture the Flag" levels. The ones you grab and run with. back to base.

those should be in the level folders

in the beach folder you can find Kriplespac's cutscene model

Edited December 31, 2025 by Über Winfrey

[MilesMontana]

Gotcha. Noted for the future.

[Über Winfrey]

just for anyone waiting on the updated script, I'm currently revamping the material config, and adding flag detection to determine how the alpha masks should be handled. something that the current script doesn't do, once thats done I'll put in an update

[shtyz]

HAPPY NEW YEARS, and to you Uber, thanks for the script man. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

[Über Winfrey]

Here is an updated version of the script
What Changed:
Added shader type detection
     Specular textures will now correctly pipe into the specular node
     Textures with a Cutout Alpha now correctly pipe into the alpha channel
      Fur is currently being worked on

Added more attributes to the model
    Vertex Color is now supported
     Fur Length is now being collected (not fully implemented yet)
    

Fixed an issue where some models never importing textures or materials

I'll also update the original script post
EDIT
I'll be updating it again soon, appears some models have separate specular textures rather than them just deriving from the alpha, mostly the Barn_outside models

RBMimport_noAnimation2.py

Edited January 6 by Über Winfrey

[Über Winfrey]

Might have to redo the material system again to using the pushbuffer to decrypt what the textures do, But maybe not, I'm still debugging some stuff, the phong shader uses the specular shader type number, but its config settings are different, so ironing that out might take a little bit

maybe if I end up using the push buffer, maybe that will lead into modding files in the game itself, who knows

Edited January 7 by Über Winfrey

[MilesMontana]

Time will tell. We look forward to seeing what you find out regardless. I did find it odd with how this version of the script handles stuff in regards to specular and all that, but still kept V1 of the script in case something was to end up being weird. Nevertheless, still impressive and do take all the time needed.

[Über Winfrey]

16 minutes ago, MilesMontana said:

Time will tell. We look forward to seeing what you find out regardless. I did find it odd with how this version of the script handles stuff in regards to specular and all that, but still kept V1 of the script in case something was to end up being weird. Nevertheless, still impressive and do take all the time needed.

the fixes can happen manually, you just have to plug the shading into the correct slots, hopefully I can figure it out

I did find that not all the textures are importing for whatever reason , nothing major, just some masks that should be there

[MilesMontana]

2 minutes ago, Über Winfrey said:

the fixes can happen manually, you just have to plug the shading into the correct slots, hopefully I can figure it out

I did find that not all the textures are importing for whatever reason , nothing major, just some masks that should be there

True. I mostly just unplugged some of it for now. Nothing major until figured out better. Other than that, I have noticed the texture thing with some of the stuff like like maybe the guts of the Tediz when sliced since I opened the Sneaker Tediz from WW2 and did notice one of them has some internals, but it was just blank.

[Über Winfrey]

7 hours ago, MilesMontana said:

True. I mostly just unplugged some of it for now. Nothing major until figured out better. Other than that, I have noticed the texture thing with some of the stuff like like maybe the guts of the Tediz when sliced since I opened the Sneaker Tediz from WW2 and did notice one of them has some internals, but it was just blank.

I'll look into it, could be an issue where it needs the texture from another rbm

 

[Über Winfrey]

21 hours ago, MilesMontana said:

True. I mostly just unplugged some of it for now. Nothing major until figured out better. Other than that, I have noticed the texture thing with some of the stuff like like maybe the guts of the Tediz when sliced since I opened the Sneaker Tediz from WW2 and did notice one of them has some internals, but it was just blank.

ok I believe I see what you mean, the player models in the multifrontend folder's texture works, but the ones in the multi folder are no long importing, so I'll have to look into that, I'm working on a resource pool thing, where you have to load in a file to cache shared textures through, right now I'm testing it on Berri's Matrix model, as she is referencing Conker's fur mask, yet the bank file doesn't contain it, its only in Conker's main fileThis might be the issue, I'll look into it, there are some compression formats for the textures that I haven't implemented, mostly because I forget about them


EDIT
so it seems they are relying on texture cache

00 00 00 00    00 00 00 00    A0 91 00 00    A0 92 00 00    00 00 00 00
this is a texture pointer array found at the bottom of the .Data section of the Demolisher model

if a texture is shown in the zpackage list, its pointer will be 00 00 00 00
which originally I thought all the needed files would be in the archive when putting the script together

for this model the second texture pointer is located in the zpackage list that you click on to import a model, which results in the null pointer in the .data

what I didn't know was that it used resource files for the first texture pointer, which also cause Null pointers, but the textures for those Null areas are always named in the model's file


example
demolisher_Fbody.tga in Resource file
demolisher_detail.tga in RBM
ted_inside_texture_2.iff in Resource file
so that is the reason for missing textures

Edited January 8 by Über Winfrey

[MilesMontana]

Ah, gotcha. Kinda odd they chose it that way since they seemed pretty organized for the most part, but I guess dependencies were inevitable somewhere. I know levels aren't the thing right now, but did notice some texture improvements on the FrontEnd area (Cock and Plunker menu), but the rest is of course a little borked.

[Über Winfrey]

fixed some dynamic mesh scaling issues, there was a flag in one of the sneaker models that wasn't recorded, I have fixed it now, I'm still trying to work out the kinks of the resource loading

once I feel its stable enough I'll pop up another update script,  and I'll list the files that you will need to load as resour ces for some of the textures to transfer to mesh
EDIT

resource preloading seems to be working

Edited January 9 by Über Winfrey

[MilesMontana]

Nice, nice.  Been wondering what the mesh was supposed to be there. Don't recall too well aside from some effects I guess.

 

[Über Winfrey]

1 minute ago, MilesMontana said:

Nice, nice.  Been wondering what the mesh was supposed to be there. Don't recall too well aside from some effects I guess.

 

 

its the forcefield shield

so I found that I am missing a handful of dds compressions, so some of the textures don't decode when importing them, so once I get those patched I'll test to see if all the textures import to the correct materials and if they do I might release an updated script, 

Edited January 9 by Über Winfrey

[MilesMontana]

Ah. I really do need to sit through more of the multiplayer at some point to get a full grasp better. Take all the time required since it's amazing you've figured out this much already in the span of less than a year in the timeframe you started to now.

[Über Winfrey]

1 hour ago, MilesMontana said:

Ah. I really do need to sit through more of the multiplayer at some point to get a full grasp better. Take all the time required since it's amazing you've figured out this much already in the span of less than a year in the timeframe you started to now.

I've dedicated way too much of my free time to this damned Squirrel

[MilesMontana]

1 minute ago, Über Winfrey said:

I've dedicated way too much of my free time to this damned Squirrel

Maybe, but you seem to understand it the best so far compared to anyone else i've seen tbh and I respect it.

[Über Winfrey]

RBMimport_noAnimation4.pyHere is an updated version of the script,
Added Support for V8U8 DDS bumpmaps, textures that are apart of the perturbation shading, like rain and drunkeness 
Added a new feature that allows you to preload textures from a selected Resource RBM, doing so allows some models that rely on separate archives to be able to use their textures. 

to preload the textures click "Preload ALL Textures" which does what the label says

the following are resource files I've found so far, there could be more:
General/Singleplayer/
Levels/MP_Frontend/
General/Boot/
General/TemporaryBoot/
General/Multiplayer/

some of the multiplayer models don't import the textures, but if you really need that model, they all have packages else where in the files that does import textures

 Disregard the "Load Resource RBM" it will be removed at some point

Edited January 10 by Über Winfrey

[MilesMontana]

I'll have to look more into the script. This should be interesting.

Edited January 11 by MilesMontana

[Über Winfrey]

I'm working on maps now,
had some leakage, with face tables for maps

my script originally fed faces to vertex buffers based on IDs, but with maps its different, some of them do not have the matching requirements that most of the face distribution requires, so now I'm reworking that a little. In the image above, the treetops are one of those buffers that require a work around, so once I get that figured I'll post another update

Edited January 12 by Über Winfrey