Space Marine 2 tpl models

[09williamsad]

Space Marine 2 uses Saber Interactive's Swarm Engine.

For its tpl models the QCVIewer tool that worked for Quake Champions and World World War Z is not compatible.
I have not found any other tools for this specific engine format.

Samples https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19dmtmLcdLUzA7Z8Y-IkJVZUrB7OQetbQ?usp=sharing

Edited September 8 by 09williamsad

[shak-otay]

Looks a little bit strange - maybe I'm missing something:

wpn_power_sword_01 tpl_data

[Devilmayplay96]

On 9/9/2024 at 12:59 AM, shak-otay said:

Looks a little bit strange - maybe I'm missing something:

wpn_power_sword_01 tpl_data

How did you get to that step? I mean, I'm a newbie at this, but a 3D designer, and I need to know how to get to that step.

[09williamsad]

1 minute ago, Devilmayplay96 said:

How did you get to that step? I mean, I'm a newbie at this, but a 3D designer, and I need to know how to get to that step.

Hex2Obj.

Its a tool for reading model geometry from files.

[Devilmayplay96]

3 minutes ago, 09williamsad said:

Hex2Obj.

Its a tool for reading model geometry from files.

Would you mind explaining how it works please, put the .resource file inside and it should give it to me or is there a job to do before? Thanks 😄

[09williamsad]

Just now, Devilmayplay96 said:

Would you mind explaining how it works please, put the .resource file inside and it should give it to me or is there a job to do before? Thanks 😄

Its a general 3D model research tool.

Its not specific to Space Marine 2.

[Devilmayplay96]

1 minute ago, 09williamsad said:

Its a general 3D model research tool.

Its not specific to Space Marine 2.

Yes, yes, that's what I'm seeing. I'll have to watch tutorials to find out how to apply it to Space Marines 2.

[shak-otay]

1 hour ago, Devilmayplay96 said:

How did you get to that step? I mean, I'm a newbie at this, but a 3D designer, and I need to know how to get to that step.

It's not "that step", it's several steps. On step is to find the list of face indices, another to find the vertices. Since those are short integers they're harder to find.

In fact you'll need a deeper format analysis to easily find the parameters for all sub meshes.

I usually do a rough search for those of one sub mesh only.

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put the .resource file inside

No, I used the .tpl_data file in hex2obj. Load it into a hexeditor, too, then

for the vertices goto offset 0x2E3B8, for the face indices go to 0x3AE0A to get some impression of the file's structure.

Edited September 10 by shak-otay

[Devilmayplay96]

8 minutes ago, shak-otay said:

It's not "that step", it's several steps. On step is to find the list of face indices, another to find the vertices. Since those are short integers they're harder to find.

In fact you'll need a deeper format analysis to easily find the parameters for all sub meshes.

I usually do a rough search for those of one sub mesh only.

No, I used the .tpl_data file in hex2obj. Load it into a hexeditor, too, then

for the vertices goto offset 0x2E3B8, for the face indices go to 0x3AE0A to get some impression of the file's structure.

I understand, I understand, and to get to the .tpl_data file, where can I find it?

[Devilmayplay96]

11 minutes ago, Devilmayplay96 said:

I understand, I understand, and to get to the .tpl_data file, where can I find it?

ok i just found that file

[shak-otay]

tpl zip linked in opening post. Subfolder wpn_power_sword_01

[Smash96]

 

 

[shak-otay]

Yeah, 3D rippers are the crucial reason why research forums like this one are dying out.

Thanks.

[Smash96]

2 hours ago, shak-otay said:

Yeah, 3D rippers are the crucial reason why research forums like this one are dying out.

Thanks.

If the regulations of this site are against me posting this, i'm more than happy to remove it and apologize. Youtube will remove it soon anyways. This is just another way to get models from the game. Again if the moderators want this remove can be done. 

[shak-otay]

First off: I'm not a moderator.

2nd: don't get me wrong. What I wrote was caused by an emotional impulse.

I can't and won't stop the way things go.

So leave your post as it is. People should know that there is an easy way to extract 3D models. And will decide themselves.

[Devilmayplay96]

So is there any progress?

[haus]

https://github.com/Wildenhaus/LibSaber/tree/sm2

Saber's formats are getting increasingly convoluted. I don't know if I want to finish it

[09williamsad]

2 minutes ago, haus said:

https://github.com/Wildenhaus/LibSaber/tree/sm2

Saber's formats are getting increasingly convoluted. I don't know if I want to finish it

Thats more progress than anyone else I have seen for SM2 so far.

Good work.

[haus]

Done working on this for now. No scenes or skinning/bones/proper node hierarchies. Only a handful of stuff works. Very slow.

LibSaber (library for reading from saber files): https://github.com/Wildenhaus/LibSaber/tree/sm2
Index (app for converting/displaying models, uses LibSaber): https://github.com/Wildenhaus/IndexV2/tree/sm2

All of my research is in those two branches. If anyone would like to inspect/fork/etc go right ahead. Hope you like C#.

I will not be providing support or builds of this until it is stable, if it ever is. Please don't ask me for help unless it pertains to the game's file structures.

[CharlieV]

On 9/12/2024 at 1:07 AM, shak-otay said:

Yeah, 3D rippers are the crucial reason why research forums like this one are dying out.

Thanks.

Disagree. As a NinjaRipper patron more often than not either a) it just doesn't work or b) it's easier to use dedicated tools and access all the files at will (such as Unreal) rather than having to be at the right place at the right time in a game. It has its uses, but research forums and discords aren't going anywhere at all any time soon. 

[shak-otay]

1 hour ago, CharlieV said:

but research forums and discords aren't going anywhere at all any time soon. 

Xentax forum did and I'm pretty sure it was mainly because of 3D rippers. (Can't prove it, though.)

[haus]

i received a few donations and decided to make a bit more progress.

i hate the way saber does things so much 

model download (still a bit iffy)

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Edited September 21 by haus

[RYDEEN007]

9 hours ago, haus said:

i received a few donations and decided to make a bit more progress.

i hate the way saber does things so much 

model download (still a bit iffy)

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I want donation too where can i donate to you

[JSoS]

9 hours ago, haus said:

i received a few donations and decided to make a bit more progress.

i hate the way saber does things so much 

model download (still a bit iffy)

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Interested in donating. And in the rubric marine and terminators.

[haus]

i appreciate it, but don't feel obligated to donate. if you feel inclined though, you can find the donation page on my github profile.

fixed some more issues with textures and bone weights today. also made some progress on maps, but saber decided to implement a really convoluted instancing system for most of those so I don't know how far I'll get on that.

i have all of the models and textures loading though. just need to test and make sure things are in order, and then i'll post a build

in the meantime, here's another model. the only thing wrong I've noticed is that the base head isn't parented to any bones. this time the normal maps have the z channel calculated (something the tool does natively). it's formatted for OpenGL (blender). if you'd rather have DirectX, invert the green channel or recalculate it in a shader node with z=sqrt(1-x^2+y^2)

Edited September 22 by haus